Interview – Frank Satterwhite – 1600 Cyber GmBH
ANDREW MCLEAN [00:00:01] And welcome back to the Cloud and Cybersecurity Expo, Techerati Live brought to you Disruptive LIVE. Broadcasting from the Disruptive Live Studios in London. So this, my next guest, like I spoke to him yesterday, we’re doing a little bit of a briefing and also he was on a call with us early on The Panel, and his CV reads like something out of, I want to say, a Hollywood movie. And it turns out he actually lives in L.A. as well, I think. So I am absolutely delighted to be joined by my next guest. Frank Satterwhite of 1600 Cyber. Frank, welcome.
FRANK SATTERWHITE [00:00:40] Good afternoon. How are you doing? Good talking to you again.
ANDREW MCLEAN [00:00:44] Good talking to you, good talking to you. So look, we already spoken, but what do you tell me a little bit about 1600 actually and tell me about your background as well.
FRANK SATTERWHITE [00:00:54] UC Berkeley, Silicon Valley, formally trained at George Mason. But more importantly, I probably care about the community and how technology can help it almost more than anybody in the world. So everything we do as a company, we use technology to deliver solutions to communities that need them. The other thing I’d like to mention is to deliver these technologies communities, we have a music group. This music group is comprised of a Gordon Williams who who is Grammy Award winning work with Alicia Keys, Santana, Lauryn Hill. I mean, you name it. David Medina, who also work with J. Cole, R-Kelly. Oh-Neales works with Will I am. And many others. And I have a very strong music background in reality rap. So what we’re doing is we’re using music to do to get people’s attention and inspire them to use our technology products to solve their problems.
ANDREW MCLEAN [00:01:59] I thought actually it was Frank. That’s so impressive. I have no response. Well, having the topic of this is cyber security. You think that you’re using cyber security and things like that using your other skills? That not particuarly technical?
FRANK SATTERWHITE [00:02:15] Well, well, this is a prom. I’m a technical expert on encryption. NATO, U.S. military. That’s not a technical background. But none of that matters if I can’t take those skills and give people the priors that help them. Right? Technical people are the mass people, the communities won’t use the technology or don’t use it properly. So the reason we’re using music is because music will get their attention. It will make them aware how we can make society better through technology. And once we have their attention, then I show them how smart, I mean, how smart we’ve delivered these great products.
ANDREW MCLEAN [00:02:56] You’ve got us amazing. It’s really cool, you know what next time I’m in L.A. I’m going to stay at that enormous house together. So are the advancements of technology security Good for the general public. And also, you mentioned that you’ve got all these great products. But what exactly do you mean by that?
FRANK SATTERWHITE [00:03:16] So I’ll give you a couple of products we have two, three were really keen on. One is a COVID tracing after children. So it demises the data of children, you know. And while at the same time being able to trace who they had contact with or whether or not they’re positive, we’re launching this work and starting a campaign on this in the next couple of weeks. But essentially, through a token, your child can know there they’ve been around somebody else with COVID and they can know if they actually can just go and play with that kid or sit in the classroom with that kid. So, yes, I’m really proud it. The other thing we’re doing, another product is called Priv the App basically online right now. All our privacy rights are being violated daily by Facebook, Google. Our data’s being exploited. And I’m not happy about it. So there’s app takes technology and when people download it, they can control who has access to their data. So we need people to transition from Facebook and Google using their data without permission. With Facebook and Google having to ask for consent. And if they may try to bypass the proper channels, which is your consent. The app will stop. And it’s called that’s called “Priv the App”. And the last thing we’re doing partnered up with the gentleman in music business. We’re doing a police brutality app, which is dear to my heart. People are being brutalised in the heat of an exchange with a police officer. They forget their rights. They forget to act a certain way to keep them safe. So this app not only reminds people of their rights, but it also is like a lifeline because it connects connect them to their loved ones via voice command to let them know that I’ve been pulled over. I’m in trouble. I don’t feel safe. And basically, I want to stay alive. So this is my location. If you can’t come to me and give me some assistance quickly.
ANDREW MCLEAN [00:05:30] Thank you. You are. You seem like an incredibly busy man. I must say that they’re fantastic. I want to particularly pick up on the “pref” thing because I’m really interested, really interested. The moment in privacy is a big conversation here and it’s a big conversation all over the world. But for here, for example, we’ve got this thing called GDPR to the General Protection Regulation. And one of the things that’s done is now you when if you go to website, and ask for consent now, it’s a little bit I, I think my opinion, it’s a little bit like the Ts and CS on a lot of software, you just click yes, except because a cookie is that cookies. But you when you talk about this app and things that you’ve developed for things like Facebook, how much of that is actually education? How much, how much? How do you stop people from just doing what I do, which is okay, as fine, as fine.
FRANK SATTERWHITE [00:06:25] So that goes back www.1600musicgroup.com that’s the music. The music is going to tell people why you don’t just say accept accept accept because like we say, they’re now a lecture about it. People will listen. But if if entertainers tell them, hey, listen, protect your data, then people will listen and not only listen, but probably take action. So so the problem primary problem is the education part is when you say accept, accept, accept, you are giving people rights because you made them giving them rights to your personal data. But the problem is there’s all these third parties. But you didn’t say except to, these third parties or take your data every second of every day and they’re making money off of it. And then you never see consent. Accept, accept, accpet to them. So again, I know music seems like this this nonrelated thing, but it is this problem right here with our artist, telling people, listen, protect your privacy through a song. We have a song called Miss America. It’s coming out. They’re going to listen and they will know why they shouldn’t say, accept. And more than likely they won’t accept anymore.
ANDREW MCLEAN [00:07:39] I love it. I absoultely love it. I’ve got really little time. I could talk to you all day, Frank. I really could. Let’s talk about the compromises here. Of course, you’ve got all these things around the world, countries that have got no facial recognition and things like that. And it’s all about keeping people safe and secure. But there is that privacy issues, can we find a balance?
FRANK SATTERWHITE [00:08:06] There is no balance, in my opinion. It’s a power grab. No one needs to know where you’re at. 24 hours a day, which you’re buying. Who you’re with. Where you’ve been. No one needs to know that and basically what people don’t understand with your cell phone. It never needs to eat, sleep, it’s focus and it’s constantly surveilling you for other people. So best back to the app that the balance is for me. It’s real simple. It’s my data. If you want to use it, you ask me. If you can’t ask me, you can’t use it. Now, if you ask me, I will tell you not only that you can have access to my data, but I will tell you exactly what data you can have access to, not just you get access to everything, right? So “Priv the App” is an application level and a data level will allow you to pick and choose who has access to your data. And anything else to me is a violation of your rights.
ANDREW MCLEAN [00:09:06] I absolutely love your just utter ruthlessness, but you’re just. That’s it. That’s it. I’ve drawn that line and that’s it. And you’ve built companies and you built products and things like that and you know, you are actually putting your money where your mouth is. You do strongly believe in this. And if you create some amazing things, Frank, as I’ve said, I could talk to you all day but unfortunately we’ve run out of time, but I love speaking with you again. But you are an absolute star. And next time I am in L.A., if we can ever get out of London, I will definitely come and see us. I’ll see you soon.
FRANK SATTERWHITE [00:09:42] Thanks so much for having me, okay? you guys have a great day.
ANDREW MCLEAN [00:09:45] Thank you very much. That was Frank Sartterwhite the from 1600 Cyber. What range of things. Very impassioned man. Very impassioned man. There’s some great things. We’ve got to take a little break before we speak to Mark next as soon as we back in a minute.